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Are we waiting for ALL nations to be told? - 11/15/2008 1:49:05 PM
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Ichiban
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Matthew 24-14 (NLT)
And the Good News about the Kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, so that all nations will hear it; and then, finally, the end will come.
I hear this talk of all that's going on politically and I can't help think about those who have not been reached yet. I wanted to know what God said about unreached nations and I found this.
Is it conceivable that we, as humans, can influence God's second coming?
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RE: Are we waiting for ALL nations to be told? - 11/15/2008 2:08:49 PM
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bob97
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Great question and all I can do is give my opinion.
If God know the end from the beginning...looking into the future, knowing how we will respond to all things, how can we change what God knows we will do?
No...I think God has a time table based on His knowledge of our future and nothing will delay that event. 
Bob
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RE: Are we waiting for ALL nations to be told? - 11/15/2008 2:20:03 PM
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Ichiban
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Great question and all I can do is give my opinion.
If God know the end from the beginning...looking into the future, knowing how we will respond to all things, how can we change what God knows we will do?
No...I think God has a time table based on His knowledge of our future and nothing will delay that event.
Bob
From that perspective (God's perspective of being all knowing) I agree
However, I wasn't suggesting that humans would somehow throw off God's plans. God always finds a way to get his plan across, over time. What I am suggesting though, is that God is waiting on us.
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RE: Are we waiting for ALL nations to be told? - 11/15/2008 2:42:43 PM
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I think it is certain that God creates situations where man has a choice. When Christ came to Israel at His first coming…Israel had an opportunity to accept Christ as the Messiah or reject Him. It seems to be kind of a catch 22…God gave them a choice but based on prophecy we know that Christ would go to the cross hundreds of years before His arrival.
God gives all men the opportunity to accept Christ as their Savior but the bible tells us that our names are written in the book of life before the foundation of the world.
Difficult to understand isn’t it.
Bob
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RE: Are we waiting for ALL nations to be told? - 11/15/2008 5:15:24 PM
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Shabbat shalom, Ichiban.
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ORIGINAL: bob97
Great question and all I can do is give my opinion.
If God know the end from the beginning...looking into the future, knowing how we will respond to all things, how can we change what God knows we will do?
No...I think God has a time table based on His knowledge of our future and nothing will delay that event.
Bob
From that perspective (God's perspective of being all knowing) I agree
However, I wasn't suggesting that humans would somehow throw off God's plans. God always finds a way to get his plan across, over time. What I am suggesting though, is that God is waiting on us.
This is a thought that I used to entertain. I would wonder how we could force (no, that's not the right word)...make (no, that's not the right word either)...influence (no, that's not quite right either)...encourage (closer, but no)...BEG God to send His Son earlier than it seems to be taking.
Christians have been debating this for years! As a matter of fact, it is an ESSENTIAL discussion for those who believe in postmillennialism! What do we need to do or how do we need to act to show God that we have progressed enough as a society to warrant Christ's return? Then, when we look around at how the society is actually progressing...or rather, digressing...many begin to lose hope! We seem to be getting farther and farther away from God!
Then, I learned a simple fact: IT'S NOT ABOUT US! IT'S ALL ABOUT ISRA'EL!
Oh, I had always "had a heart for Isra'el." I was taught that much in my church, but like so many others, I didn't feel that they had any sort of "preferential treatment" due them; they were just one more nation that needed to hear about the Lord Jesus Christ and the payment for sin He offered them.
I had been taught to differ between the Church and Israel, but even in prophecy I believed that the Church would be resurrected, raptured and taken to Heaven, while Israel had to remain here on earth through the Tribulation, and even the GREAT Tribulation. I believed that, even when Jesus Christ brought us back here to earth, we Christians, the Church, would be in an orbiting New Jerusalem during the Millennium while the Jews were left on earth. Somehow, I pictured them as "second-class citizens" in Heaven.
BUT, then I read a few Scripture passages that I had trouble at first getting my mind around. Read these aloud (if you can) and slowly:
Rom 11:11-33
11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.
15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
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and...
Eph 2:11-22
11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
KJV
When I first read this, I noticed how that the Jews and the Gentiles were now one body in Christ. But, then I looked at it closer! Paul was saying to these Gentile Ephesians, "ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God!" Then WHO are the "saints?" WHO are "of the household of God?" They are the ANCESTORS of the modern Jews ("modern" since Paul's time)! We're no longer aliens or mere tourists! We aren't just passing through any more! We BELONG!
Then, I looked at Romans 11 again: We are both grafted into the Olive Tree of God's Kingdom that He had given initially to David and his progeny, starting with Solomon; HOWEVER, we Gentiles are WILD olive branches being grafted into that Olive Tree CONTRARY TO NATURE, while the Jews are NATURAL branches grafted back into their OWN Olive Tree! There's no difference...but then again, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE!
Even the unbelieving Jews are said to be our enemies when "concerning the gospel," HOWEVER, "as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes!" Which fathers? Their ancestors! Avraham, Yitschak, Ya`acov, Moshe, etc.!
Then, I saw it. I must have read over these verses a hundred times and never noticed before:
Matt 23:37-39
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
KJV
There's nothing WE can do to speed up prophecy! It's all about the JEWS and especially those in JERUSALEM! When they can say, "Baruwk haba' b'shem YHVH," as this is quoted from Psalm 118:22-26, THEN He will return! Interestingly, I found out when I started learning Hebrew that the first two words of this phrase, "Baruwk haba'," is what a Jew will say to someone who comes to his front door and he welcomes him into his house!
After I learned all this, I wrote a poem that I share with you now:
Seven hundred years before His timely birth,
A prophet of great boldness came to tell the men of earth
That there would come a powerful man anointed to be King;
Of His surprising miracles the populace would sing:
Of healing pow’r to make blind see and deaf to hear His voice,
Of pow’r to even raise the dead and cause men to rejoice!
Of all these things and so much more the children would sing songs,
But … only children welcomed Him to remedy their wrongs.
A song was written years before Isaiah was a child,
Predicting that Christ won’t fit into systems then gone wild:
“The builders of the pyr’mid said, ‘The stone does not fit in!’
When they were done, it capped the work and much to their chagrin!”
The Messiah was rejected, ridiculed, and slain …;
But to the shock of all involved, He came to life again!
But, He did not then cap the work of which the song declared.
Instead, He left the earth until He hears the message dared:
“We care not whether you were He of whom the Christians claim;
We only know we need you now, or we will die in shame!
We’ve heard of you, Messiah fair, and of your pow’r we read;
Please come and rescue us, dear Sire, in this our time of need!
“If you won’t save us now, there will be no one left to save.
The nation Israel is doomed, and we can see our grave.”
And in the nation Israel’s gloomiest, darkest hour,
Will come the Prince (not yet the King) in majesty and pow’r!
And when they see Messiah diving down with kingly steed,
And all the thousands following to aid the ones in need,
Then shouts of victory will echo all across the land
With sighs of relief and gasps of awe as He saves with mighty hand!
And then will He be made a King, accepted now at last!
And then a King o’er many kings as one by one they ask!
Ah, but for now He is the Christ——anointed to be King,
And although He is not King now, he will be in the “Spring ….”
For now, the “Winter” slowly drags with vernal guarantees,
And time goes on at God’s own pace with thoughtfulness and ease.
He fills each age with purpose and a reason for each pause:
To get the most from every age and weed out all the flaws.
So boast not, Christian Gentile, for you are grafted in
To share Messiah’s bounty prematurely! Do not sin!
If God spared not the people whom He worked with many years,
What will He do if you should speak against them without tears?
The Scriptures say so little ’bout this time in which we live,
Could it be that we’ve read into it much more than He did give?
Why must we feel that we’re the ones for whom the sun must shine?
Why do we think we’re all who’ll be at the marriage feast to dine?
Get rid of that old foolish pride! We’re grafted in, I say!
This high-and-mighty attitude will come to humbler day!
It should be crushing blow to think that Christ’s return will be
When Israel cries, “If you will come, we’ll surely kneel to Thee.”
Roy (aka Retrobyter)
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RE: Are we waiting for ALL nations to be told? - 11/17/2008 3:05:56 PM
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As I understand it no. That prophecy I would say was fulfilled in the 1940's. Here's why.
The point of Matthew 24-14 was that the gospel would be preached to all the nations. Not all the people in the world. Using Occam's razor on that statement for it's simplest meaning would mean it only had to get to a representative of every nation(ethnic group or tribe). One person per nation. More is appreciated but not necessary for the fulfillment of this prophecy.
Now how do we know it has been fulfilled? The proof is finding another end time prophesy either fulfilled or in the process of being fulfilled. Why? Because 24-14 is supposed to be the first event of the end times. Another end time prophecy fulfilled or in the process of being fulfilled would be the 2nd.
The rebirth of the nation of Israel would qualify as the 2nd. That event has been predicted in a number of places in the Bible. The dried valley of bones prophecy in Ezekiel. And the day of Jezreel prophecy in Hosea to name 2 of them.
Now we are just waiting on the generation of 24-34 to run out of time. Are we talking 80 or 120 years on that one? I'll guess we'll see eh?
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RE: Are we waiting for ALL nations to be told? - 11/17/2008 10:34:59 PM
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That was a great poem Retrobyter, thanks for sharing it.
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RE: Are we waiting for ALL nations to be told? - 11/17/2008 11:36:13 PM
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Retrobyter
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Shalom, Ichiban.
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Geez, dude. How long did it take you to type all that?  I would also note that I'm nearly KJV illiterate. I can barely understand it 
I would agree with all of the facts you brought forth, but I would disagree with your conclusion as it relates to God's timing. I certainly have no clue the time of God's arrival (nor do I want to know). And I would absolutely agree on Israel's role in the end days. They are the chosen people.
I just don't believe Jesus will come back before ALL of the peoples are reached (as quoted in Matthew, earlier). Believing that, I have no choice but to recognize the roll of Christians before Jesus' return.
LOL! Ever hear of "cut and paste?" The poem was written years ago; I just copied it into the post. That's what I do with the text of Scripture, as well.
The King James Version (KJV) was first translated in 1611 A.D. (C.E.) with several revisions afterward. Initially, it followed "the King's English" which is FAR different than today's American English (or even today's British English, for that matter). The key reasons why it is still valuable are these: (1) It is public domain and needs no copyright permission from anyone. (2) It still retains the difference in the second person between singular and plural, and subjective and objective cases; and (3) it still has more study helps based on its text than any other version today.
I am NOT a "KJV-only" kind of guy, but I DO recognize its value, and it is still a very good translation (although some words have become archaic [e.g., wot and trow] and others have morphed in their meanings [e.g., hope]).
HOWEVER, no matter what version one uses, one absolutely must NOT rely on a concordance based on the English only! Many Christians, for instance, are aware that "love" is translated from one of three basic Greek words, "agapee" or "noble, true love," "phileoo" or "intense fondness," and "eros" or "sexual love" (although "eros" is not used in the Greek New Testament at all). So, you see, one cannot just assume that "love" as it is translated in one verse is the same as "love" as it is translated in another verse! The two words MAY have come from different Greek sources! And, that's just one word of THOUSANDS!
Now, how does one know when "ALL of the peoples are reached?" Does "ALL" mean "every last person on the face of the earth?" Or, does "ALL" mean "every last GROUP of people or nation on earth?" Or, does "ALL" means "every person whom God knows will be reached?" I don't know, and I don't think we could EVER know! Besides, that's GOD'S business, not ours! Oh, to be sure, we should pursue the Great Commission as long as we are able, but when GOD is done, so are we! Even if we might think there are yet people to reach! After all, God knows who is reachable and who is not.
On the other hand, we DO have Yeshua`s promise that He will not return until the Jews of Jerusalem say, "Baruwk haba' b'shem YHVH!" (Matthew 23:37-39 and Psalm 118:22-26) That is a given fact! That does not give me an exact time of Yeshua`s arrival, but it gives me something to watch for and a very rough idea of the time He arrives. I also read Revelation slightly different than most: I see things to watch for in anticipation of His coming! For instance, there is a very good description of a meteorite shower from the breaking of the sixth seal on the scroll of curse-prophecies through the fifth shofar blast ("trumpet" or air-raid siren), worse than any of the writers of the movies Armageddon or Deep Impact could describe! Since I don't believe in a pretribulational rapture (because I don't find it creditable, and I believe that we are already 3-1/2 years into Dani'el's 70th "week" of years) nor a midtribulational rapture, I believe that this is an event for which we can watch!
I'm 51 years old and I've been taught and been fascinated by prophecy since I was VERY young! In fact, the warnings of prophecy related by my dad who was a fundamental, independent, premillennial, pretribulational rapturistic, Baptist preacher and evangelists that he would invite were responsible for waking me up to my need for the Savior Yeshua` the Messiah (Jesus Christ) when I was 5 years old! (I was baptized when I was 6.)
I learned the Hebrew alefbet when I was 6 or 7, and went to four years of Bible college right after high school. Since that time, I've studied Hebrew and Greek on my own, and I have even taken classes on Hebrew at a Messianic Synagogue. I've sought the Lord's wisdom on every difficult passage that I've come across, doggedly staying with each one until God has given me a satisfactory answer.
I am tenacious and I have an analytical, logical mind; I'm a mathematician and I've been an old-style computer programmer in BASIC, COBOL, ForTran, C, C++, Pascal, and Assembler Language. I have a computer engineering degree, and I have studied artificial intelligence, and computer design (as well as all the other engineering core subjects, like statics, dynamics, fluid dynamics, materials, chemistry, physics, probability and statistics, modern physics, and economics, to name a few). While at college, I used to tutor in math and computer usage.
Down through the years, I've probably come across almost every far-out fantasy and fancy and twisting of Scripture there is in the field of eschatology. I'm not perfect by any stretch, but I believe that God has given me a coherent position that blends the Scriptures together in a wonderful way. Every time I learn something new (and I still find things I hadn't noticed before), I am amazed at how well it fits into what I believe God has already shown me! And, if there's anything at all to it, it's all Him! Note: there have been a few times in my past when I had to completely revamp my eschatology, but I haven't had to do that now for a long while.
I'm just giving you some of my background so you'll know that I'm not just spouting things off the top of my head. I've given the things I believe considerable investigation and thought.
So, when Yeshua` said in Matt. 24,
Matt 24:14
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
KJV
He's talking about the SAME gospel of the kingdom as is found in Mark 1:14 & 15:
Mark 1:14-15
14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.KJV
Now, think about how early this was in Yeshua`s ministry during His first coming: No one at the time knew about His resurrection! Shoot, they didn't even think He would die back then! They were counting on Him restoring the Kingdom that once was ruled by haMelekh Daviyd (the King David)! If they knew He was the Messiah at all, they were expecting Him to conquer the Romans and free Isra'el from oppression! What I find extremely interesting is that HE DID NOT CONTRADICT OR CORRECT THEM!
So, what was this "gospel of the Kingdom?" It WAS indeed that Yeshua` was to rule over Isra'el from His ancestor Daviyd's throne! (Luke 1:30-33)
Luke 1:30-33
30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.
31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
KJV
What we "preach" today is NOT the "gospel of the Kingdom," or the "good news about the Kingdom"; what we have REDUCED the "gospel" to today, "the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ,"is the absolutely bare-bones version of a much greater message!
The "gospel of the Kingdom" does NOT mean that it is "he Kingdom's gospel"and that the Kingdom is another word for the "church," thus making it "the Church's gospel!" That puts the cart before the horse!
NO! The Kingdom came FIRST and then came those who were grafted into that Olive Tree, both Jew and Gentile alike!
Sorry to go nuts on all this, but I feel that it's absolutely necessary for people new to me to know where I'm coming from. This isn't just directed at you; sometimes, I just think I need to say it again because the message gets buried in the rhetoric of modern theology and eschatology so easily and so thoroughly!
May our Master, Yeshua` the Messiah of God, bless you in your growth!
Roy (aka Retrobyter)
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RE: Are we waiting for ALL nations to be told? - 11/18/2008 12:30:49 AM
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bob97
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Thanks Roy...gives me a better picture of you and your background...not that I needed it to understand you.
Bob
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RE: Are we waiting for ALL nations to be told? - 11/18/2008 1:17:50 AM
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LOL! Ever hear of "cut and paste?" The poem was written years ago; I just copied it into the post. That's what I do with the text of Scripture, as well.
Forgive me, Retro, I know I haven't been with these forums that long, but are you sure? I would have taken you for the guy who first transcribes that scripture from the original manuscripts letter for letter, word for word to ensure its integrity. Then you carefully translate it into the common language, checking that you are, indeed, staying true to the original message of the authors. Then you type it into this HTML format and spell check for good measure.
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I do hope you get find the humor in this, because I thought it was pretty funny when it came to me. In any case, bless you for the time and energy you put into each of your posts. They are informative and serve as a challenge for us to become better students of the Word, too.
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“Well,” says one, “I like to be my own master.” Yes, and that involves two things;
first, you have a very bad master; and, next, your master has a fool for his servant.
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RE: Are we waiting for ALL nations to be told? - 11/18/2008 12:04:40 PM
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Josh, I mean this with complete love mate - Your a nutter! LOL
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RE: Are we waiting for ALL nations to be told? - 11/18/2008 9:45:16 PM
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Retrobyter
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Shalom, Josh4LinC.
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LOL! Ever hear of "cut and paste?" The poem was written years ago; I just copied it into the post. That's what I do with the text of Scripture, as well.
Forgive me, Retro, I know I haven't been with these forums that long, but are you sure? I would have taken you for the guy who first transcribes that scripture from the original manuscripts letter for letter, word for word to ensure its integrity. Then you carefully translate it into the common language, checking that you are, indeed, staying true to the original message of the authors. Then you type it into this HTML format and spell check for good measure.
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I do hope you get find the humor in this, because I thought it was pretty funny when it came to me. In any case, bless you for the time and energy you put into each of your posts. They are informative and serve as a challenge for us to become better students of the Word, too.
ROFL! Okay, you caught me. I DO sometimes compose in Microsoft Word with the spell checker on and then cut-and-paste the text into the Reply to Message screen! I've been burnt too often by going past the one-day-logged-in point and losing a long post.
I do also take a very detailed look at the original languages; we don't have the original manuscripts, however.  Thanks for noticing! Ha! Ha!
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RE: Are we waiting for ALL nations to be told? - 11/19/2008 1:09:50 PM
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I'm guilty as well if I have a long winded response
I want to give. I do it in notepad and then cut and
paste to the forums. I've lost so many posts getting
timed out. I have to laugh to know how long it took
me and how many posts I lost before I figured it out. lol.
One thing I like about Retrobyter. whether a long post or
a short post, it's worth the read. Real information contained.
Not that I read all long posts. lol.
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RE: Are we waiting for ALL nations to be told? - 11/27/2008 11:15:59 PM
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Retrobyter
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Shalom, Lapidoth.
quote:
ORIGINAL: Lapidoth
I'm guilty as well if I have a long winded response
I want to give. I do it in notepad and then cut and
paste to the forums. I've lost so many posts getting
timed out. I have to laugh to know how long it took
me and how many posts I lost before I figured it out. lol.
One thing I like about Retrobyter. whether a long post or
a short post, it's worth the read. Real information contained.
Not that I read all long posts. lol.
Thanks for the vote of confidence. I will also take your admission about the long posts into consideration. Using Charlie "Tremendous" Jones' approach, I'll try to remember his "SIBKIS" advice: "See It Big, Keep It Simple."
Retrobyter
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RE: Are we waiting for ALL nations to be told? - 11/28/2008 9:13:53 AM
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SonicStudent
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Listen Retro, you are one of those members that gives flesh to any subject matter, and i've learned a lot from you, and for that 'THANKS!' It is always worth the read! Very informative, and i've come to know that it's always with solid biblical foundation. I'm not saying I always 100% agree, 'cos some subject matters can have several possible fulfilments, but are such that we won't really know until fulfilment. But always, your approach is scriptural and always the possible correct approach to that fulfilment. We would be so much the poorer forum without you on here.
Bless ya!
Sonic
PS - Yep, some could be a little shorter! But only as long as they give us the same amount of info
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