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That being said, due to being savagely raped, beaten, and left to die by 2 white men in a racially-motivated attack, I avoid being in close proximity to white men because it causes me extreme anxiety. Carrying that over to ALL white males because of the actions of a couple might be seen as racist, but it is something I have not been able to get past- perhaps because I was not allowed to seek justice. People who have had to live with violent racial conflict go thru life with PTSD and its accompanying burdens, all of which are debilitating and self-destructive; it is a difficult cycle to break free of.

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Yeah but that's another way that the religion is messed up. There is a colour hierarchy within the religion. Black Muslims aren't respected by most Arab Muslims. A white friend of mine converted to Islam and she is barely even acknowledged by most.

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there is one thing you should know about racism.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING.

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The Bible teaches that there is only 1 race as all people descended from adam and since the Bible is true on all accounts there can be no possibility of other humans arising from other sources.

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in other words, the disporia caused information loss which dictated the results of how people look. thus there are not 4 or more races of people but 1 genetically influenced race whose results are used by the devil to hurt God's creation. when people attack others, they are attacking their own kind no matter what color the skin is.

christians need to stop listening to evolutionary ideas andstay strong inwhat the Bible teaches.

{resource: Ken Ham and his dvd on race}

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Can you tell me what verse says that a race of humans means coming from another source. You said the bible teaches this. Back it up.

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ORIGINAL: DaveW

I think that has more to do with the black muslim movement (Elijah Mohammed) not being part of Suni Islam. There is a lot of other stuff in there that would be irrelevant to someone from Saudi Arabia. They treat Shiites the same way - as heretics.

AFAIK, the Sunis from central Africa are accepted as full Moslems.

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THERE IS NO SUCH THING. the idea of 4-6 races has evolutionary not scriptural origins. darwin or one of his cohorts came up withthe idea of different evolutionary starts for the different colored people, their problem was they did not have the benefit of genetic study and they dismissed the biblical accounts of separation at babel.

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The Bible teaches that there is only 1 race as all people descended from adam and since the Bible is true on all accounts there can be no possibility of other humans arising from other sources. thus what you call racism is not and it is maybe -nationalism, clanism, colorism but it is not racist.

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and they dismissed the biblical accounts of separation at babel.

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That being said, due to being savagely raped, beaten, and left to die by 2 white men in a racially-motivated attack, I avoid being in close proximity to white men because it causes me extreme anxiety. Carrying that over to ALL white males because of the actions of a couple might be seen as racist, but it is something I have not been able to get past- perhaps because I was not allowed to seek justice.

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ORIGINAL: kencool99

i remember bill cosby at the naacp convention and chastising lower income black people for not taking full advantage of their educational opportunities. as a black male myself , cosby stated what many black people had been thinking for a long time and that`s why he received a standing ovation.

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ORIGINAL: Qtman

The scripture in Genesis that talks about Babel says nothing about God causing different skin colors. It says He confused their languages so they could not communicate and then scattered them over the whole world.

There is some scientific studies that support the theory of evolutionary origins of the various "races" of people. THis is not to say we evolved from some organic matter into humans. What it does say is that humans adapted to their climate. Skin color is nothing more than the amount of pigmentation one has. It is said in these studies that the warmer the climate the more dark pigmentation humans developed. Europe was a cooler or more moderate climate and therefore the people did not have as much pigmentation in their skin. Arabic countries tend to be more of a olive complection, African countries tend to be even darker. THe study indicates it was an adaptation to withstand the heat and sun. IOW a sorta safety precaution brought on by climate and exposure to the sun.

I am not saying this is true nor that I even believe it just throwing it out for consideration.

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Which is funny since all the movies and cartoons feature Caucasian characters. Since most of the Bible centers around the Middle East and Africa until the New Testament, you would think you'd see darker complexions on the characters.
It's no wonder that you have the Nation drawing people of color away with the race card.

The fact is that Christianity was in Africa long before it crossed into Europe and centuries before Islam.

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Which is funny since all the movies and cartoons feature Caucasian characters. Since most of the Bible centers around the Middle East and Africa until the New Testament, you would think you'd see darker complexions on the characters.
It's no wonder that you have the Nation drawing people of color away with the race card.

The fact is that Christianity was in Africa long before it crossed into Europe and centuries before Islam.

Your second point is true.

However, the way people represent Biblical figures is more matter of culture than racism. Look at Ethiopian representations of Bible stories, and you'll find the characters all look remarkably African, rather than Middle Eastern. Same with many Asian representations I've seen. People tend to draw what they're used to seeing.

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That is true...however, you'd think as we have learned better that you would see more accuracy. The Prince of Egypt and Joseph, King of Dreams by Dreamworks was the first project I saw with Black Egyptians and Moses' wife Zipporah the Midianite as a person of color.

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That is true...however, you'd think as we have learned better that you would see more accuracy. The Prince of Egypt and Joseph, King of Dreams by Dreamworks was the first project I saw with Black Egyptians and Moses' wife Zipporah the Midianite as a person of color.

I do not think that all Egyptians were or are black.

The bone structure indicated in most of the pictographs and Hieroglyphics of that time perioon and before do not indicate negroid facial bone structure.

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RC

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ORIGINAL: rockitd
That is true...however, you'd think as we have learned better that you would see more accuracy. The Prince of Egypt and Joseph, King of Dreams by Dreamworks was the first project I saw with Black Egyptians and Moses' wife Zipporah the Midianite as a person of color.

I do not think that all Egyptians were or are black.

The bone structure indicated in most of the pictographs and Hieroglyphics of that time perioon and before do not indicate negroid facial bone structure.

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RC

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Has anyone else noticed in Jesus movies how Jesus is always depicted as lighter then the other people?

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Has anyone else noticed in Jesus movies how Jesus is always depicted as lighter then the other people?

I would suppose that Christ was a tan color similiar to the other folks of the middle east, but I cannot be sure.

And least we forget; His Dad was neither Jewish nor from the middle East.

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RC

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Has anyone else noticed in Jesus movies how Jesus is always depicted as lighter then the other people?

I would suppose that Christ was a tan color similiar to the other folks of the middle east, but I cannot be sure.

And least we forget; His Dad was neither Jewish nor from the middle East.

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RC

But His mother sure was. In the Scriptures it says that His appearance was not notable, that He didn't stand out from the crowd, so if the crowd were Middle Eastern Jews with dark olive complexions, dark wavy hair, and dark eyes, then presumably that's how Jesus looked as well. I also take issue with film portrayals of Biblical stories which do not take into account the changes in hair, clothing, and other styles over time. In David's day the men grew their hair very long and braided both hair and beards, ornamenting them with beads of gold, silver, shell, and glass. A man's mane was his glory, and especially so for men of higher social position. Ears were pierced and elaborate plugs and earrings worn. Nose-rings were also common ornamentation for men. They also wore long skirts in daily life, short tunics and kilt-style clothes for work and war.

By the time the 1st Century AD rolled around, this had changed. Men wore their hair shorter, trimmed their beards, and didn't appear to use beaded ornamentation in either. If the ears were pierced, usually only a stud or small bangle earring was worn. Work clothing prabably hadn't changed all that much, but daily casual wear showed some change, with long robes being the prominent attire. The influx of Roman and Greek people had some influence in clothing and hair styles, as both of these tended to wear the hair close-cropped and faces shaven.

The thing is, if we are all made in God's image then there's no one group who "looks" more like God than any other nor is in any way superior to any other. Nor has any group of people been made to be subject or slave to any other. As Paul noted, we have all sinned and all fallen short of the glory of God. Likewise, we are all equally eligible for salvation thru Christ Jesus, and we all stand responsible for how we treat each other in the sight of God.