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RE: QUESTION OF THE DAY - Monday - 6/28/2010 6:31:00 PM
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Sunnymom
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Not to mention the uproar it would cause amongst all the other children in line! Can you imagine being nearly to the front of the line with your kids and then having to explain that they have to wait because some other child - that looks perfectly normal to them, gets to go before them for some unknown reason.
It would also cause trouble once these kids went back to school! These kids already have enough to deal with! Often times school teachers and aides are spending much of their time teaching these children to take turns and wait and all of that! So the kids go on a vacation and get to go ahead of everyone every time - and brings that attitude back to the classroom and essentially the teaching has to start all over again.
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Our family is involved with a program that trains service dogs, and one of the things they emphasize is taking the 'dis' out of 'disability'- that is, doing things that enable the handicapped so that they can live fuller, 'normal' lives. The idea of ADHD being looked at as an incapacitating disability is ludicrous, when there are so many people with missing limbs, who are deaf, blind, paralyzed, etc... that live very full lives with a minimum of 'special treatment'... and I know Deaf folks that'd spit in your eye if you told them they were disabled and said they could go to the front of the line.
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RE: QUESTION OF THE DAY - Monday - 6/28/2010 6:52:02 PM
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garsyt
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Not to mention the uproar it would cause amongst all the other children in line! Can you imagine being nearly to the front of the line with your kids and then having to explain that they have to wait because some other child - that looks perfectly normal to them, gets to go before them for some unknown reason.
It would also cause trouble once these kids went back to school! These kids already have enough to deal with! Often times school teachers and aides are spending much of their time teaching these children to take turns and wait and all of that! So the kids go on a vacation and get to go ahead of everyone every time - and brings that attitude back to the classroom and essentially the teaching has to start all over again.
Blessings,
Garsy
Our family is involved with a program that trains service dogs, and one of the things they emphasize is taking the 'dis' out of 'disability'- that is, doing things that enable the handicapped so that they can live fuller, 'normal' lives. The idea of ADHD being looked at as an incapacitating disability is ludicrous, when there are so many people with missing limbs, who are deaf, blind, paralyzed, etc... that live very full lives with a minimum of 'special treatment'... and I know Deaf folks that'd spit in your eye if you told them they were disabled and said they could go to the front of the line.
Me and you both!
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Garsy
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RE: QUESTION OF THE DAY - Monday - 6/28/2010 9:25:37 PM
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I think it's a bad policy. Perhaps it would be fair enough for autism/asbergers, downs syndrome or other disabilities that are somewhat severe... but not for ADD/ADHD.
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RE: QUESTION OF THE DAY - Monday - 6/28/2010 9:33:45 PM
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I have had the great pleasure of teaching severely disabled children for a number of years. Yes, some of them would squirm, even make strange noises in line. They might jump up and down, biting their hands in excitement or swaying back and forth. But they would stand in line - those children's parents would make sure. I remember the first time I opened S and H's car doors at my school. They are two severely autistic sisters. I tried to lift H out of her seat. The mother sweetly but firmly told me that she had taught her daughters to get out of the car like every other child. I have a 30 year old friend who is blind and has a seeing eye dog. She teaches H.S. science - experiments and all - because someone (an adviser) in college told her she probably couldn't. The main reason that IDEA and other special ed groups push for inclusion is because they KNOW that students with challenges fare better when they are treated as normally as possible.
Okay, I'll stop my teacher lecture now.
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RE: QUESTION OF THE DAY - Monday - 6/29/2010 10:15:14 AM
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If I had a child with a disability, I'd go on July 4th, we've been a few times and DisneyLAND is dead. Walk on rides and the walking areas were clear. It did get croweded that night but not intolerably.
As far as letting kids skip.. a severely handicapped but able to ride ride kid, sure. But ADD? no. Learn to stand in line like the rest.
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RE: QUESTION OF THE DAY - Monday - 6/29/2010 10:31:38 AM
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Tuesday's question
This is about choices for ages 5 and under; do you give your kids options regarding food at meal times and clothing or do you choose for them?
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RE: QUESTION OF THE DAY - Monday - 6/29/2010 10:38:25 AM
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Clothes we mostly choose. Unless she sees a particular shirt/dress she wants, she's flexible.
Food, I don't make food a battle ground but I do ask her to try things. The best method with her is watching us eat stuff. She does get choices of her standard staples and we go from there. We are not a clean your plate family.
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RE: QUESTION OF THE DAY - Monday - 6/29/2010 10:45:00 AM
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Meals: they have very limited choices. Usually there are two offered options for breakfast and lunch, and they need to pick one. For supper they have to eat one bite of each item, but can choose what part of the meal they want to eat a lot of, or if they don't want to eat anything beyond that one bite.
Clothes: Under 5, none of my boys has cared one bit about what he's wearing.  So I have enjoyed having them looking tidy and coordinated through those years. My 5 yo likes to pick his own clothes out, and occasionally I have to ask him to change--like if he picks his beloved sweatpants on a day that's going to be in the high 80's and oppressively humid.  Since that's been an issue lately, I told him he can wear them to bed if he likes, but in the morning he needs to change into shorts, and that seemed to be a mutually agreeable solution.
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RE: QUESTION OF THE DAY - Monday - 6/29/2010 1:14:26 PM
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I think you should start a new thread.
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RE: QUESTION OF THE DAY - Monday - 6/29/2010 1:31:16 PM
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stampinlady
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I think you should start a new thread.
I didn't think that was necessary because it's the Question Of The Day thread like the one in the Women's folder. I was under the impression that it's ok to have a tread like that here and if not then the mods will close it, correct?
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RE: QUESTION OF THE DAY - Monday - 6/29/2010 2:04:26 PM
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I think you should start a new thread.
I didn't think that was necessary because it's the Question Of The Day thread like the one in the Women's folder. I was under the impression that it's ok to have a tread like that here and if not then the mods will close it, correct?
It's ok to do it like you are, but like Maggie said, it's a good idea to change the title to reflect the question or after a while the thread will lose participants.
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RE: QUESTION OF THE DAY - Monday - 6/29/2010 2:31:38 PM
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stampinlady
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Did I do it right? It wouldn't let me type in my whole question.
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RE: QUESTION OF THE DAY - Tuesday - 6/29/2010 2:44:03 PM
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Yep, its changed on the main page.
I offer a few simple choices for lunch and breakfast. Well, breakfast is usually cereal.
For supper, they don't have to eat what I serve but their options are limited for alternatives; under 6 usually nothing because I'd have to fix it for them, or at least help. Generally they can find something on the table they like to eat.
Clothes, yes, they can choose their own clothes within reason. Sometimes I would limit options or pick for them. Not all of my kids wanted to pick out their own clothes at 5 and under, or cared what they were. For the ones that wanted to pick their own clothes I tried to let them do so as much as I felt reasonable.
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options regarding food at meal times and clothing - 6/29/2010 3:51:08 PM
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Kath
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Deb, I sent you a pm so we don't take the thread off topic.
I didn't give the kids options at meal time. They ate what I cooked. How would they learn about different foods if they just picked what they wanted?
When they got older they didn't have to clean their plates but they had to sit till everyone was done. If they ate what they took then they could be excused when they were finished. We didn't dish it for them, but if they took it they needed to eat it or sit, then they had to clear the table when everyone was finished.
I always let them pick their clothes unless they didn't care. The boys didn't care but Linz did.
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RE: options regarding food at meal times and clothing - 6/29/2010 6:21:17 PM
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for ages 5 and under; do you give your kids options regarding food at meal times and clothing or do you choose for them?
Clothing: I fasten outfits together with elastics, so anything they pick is usually fine (depending on the weather). They have to pick and wear a whole outfit. If there is a weather consideration, I try to tell them so before they pick, so I won't have to send them back to change.
Breakfast: My 5 year old must have a grain, fruit and milk product for breakfast. She has pretty much free choice about what she wants (within 'breakfast foods' -- not just anything). My 2 year old must have oatmeal with flax for her grain, but she chooses dry fruit and which sweetener to go in it, and she chooses her fruit and milk product -- she can also have a 2nd grain if she get her heart set on what her sister is eating.
Lunch: We all eat the same thing, but I seek input as I am deciding what to serve, such as "For our veggie, would you prefer salad or cooked broccoli?"
Supper: I choose it and make it, but I only serve 3 tiny pre-cut bites of each meal item. If one item is a known dislike, I don't serve that item to that child (sometimes I serve a substitute, like a half piece of toast instead of potatoes if I am dealing with a known dislike). The children are free to eat or not. When/if they eat all of what they've been served, they are free to have more (sometimes much more) of any or all items. At the end of the meal, and children who are still at the table, and who did complete their original serving may choose a dessert.
Dessert: I keep a cloth grocery bag in the bottom of the pantry. I throw into it any kind of packaged treat, candies, mini chocolate bars, or other item that is unhealthy and not perishable. This is the desert bag. Anyone entitled to a dessert may go to the pantry, look through it and choose whatever they want. (Occasionally I will serve a prepared desert. If there is any kind of fresh/perishable/not packaged desert available, I will remind the girls that they could choose that too.)
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RE: QUESTION OF THE DAY - Do you allow your little ones... - 6/29/2010 6:27:10 PM
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Loved the idea in the other folders and thought I'd start my own here. If not that' ok . It's "first come first serve" for the question of the day. : )
Apparently Disney allows children with adhd to skip the long lines because of their behavior. Do you think this is right?
I'll look for a link to this and post it later.
I guess my child can skip the Disney experience.
I do not agree with their decision.
If they are going to make provision for one condition then how many lines will they make for other conditions.
Hmm is this a follow the Yellow the brick road syndrome?
Stay tuned for our next episode when when is Yellow the color for your fellow? Or the brick hit the road?
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RE: QUESTION OF THE DAY - Do you allow your little ones... - 6/29/2010 8:33:05 PM
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Forget Disney, I want to visit Universal Studios.
For my 3 year old he can mostly pick out his own clothes and dress himself. We only intervene if he's inside out/backwards or drastically misdressed for the season.
There are times when I'll give him choices for meals, and times when he has very limited choices.
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QUESTION OF THE DAY - Do you allow your little ones to ... - 6/29/2010 8:49:50 PM
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I offered choices for breakfast and lunch, but supper was you got what I fixed. I didn't make them clean their plates, but they did have to eat their veggies. I was fortunate that my kids all liked most veggies. I stopped picking their clothes when they were about 5 unless they needed to be dressed a special way.
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RE: QUESTION OF THE DAY - Do you allow your little ones... - 6/30/2010 11:36:38 AM
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Todays question; How do you handle the grumbling teen ?
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